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Post by Arcflash on Sept 4, 2003 13:42:05 GMT -5
I just ran into a real dumb policy with the school I am attending. I am pre-hired with SNI. That's who I went into this wanting to work for, that's who I applied to; interviewed with; fully intend to work for. End of story, we're good to go right? Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo I must have SIX pre-hires before I can graduate. So now I have to fill out five more apps, talk to five more recruiters, and go through five more interviews. What am I gonna do lie to the recruiter and say "I really want to work for you?". I don't think I can... I hate to tell them "Well I only applied cuz the school made me, derrrrr" but it's the truth.
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Post by SilverBullet on Sept 4, 2003 14:06:05 GMT -5
Don't tell them anything. Just apply for the jobs. Find out if the school works with certain companies. If they do, those companies should already know the schools policies. Apply to those schools and get your pre-hires.
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Post by Arcflash on Sept 4, 2003 14:20:31 GMT -5
Don't tell them anything. Just apply for the jobs. Find out if the school works with certain companies. If they do, those companies should already know the schools policies. Apply to those schools and get your pre-hires. Yeah, he gave me apps for Swift, Roehl, Werner, Covenant, Stevens, and Star. I hope the recruiters understand. I hate the fact that if something does happen down the road and I apply to one of these companies I have to check 'yes' when they ask "Have you ever applied for employment with us before". They'll probably suspect I am some sort of reject, but the truth is that I am just some jackass that was coerced into filling out applications to suit some job placement ratio.
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Post by SilverBullet on Sept 4, 2003 16:30:04 GMT -5
I wouldn't call myself a jackass over it. These companies get applications everyday from people who don't take the job. Or are lined up for orientation and never meet the bus. I wouldn't stress over it if I were you..
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Post by truckertom on Sept 4, 2003 22:08:47 GMT -5
Is the school making you fillout all the applications? We have students who "will not" pull a flatbed no matter how long the recruiter talks, and they are not obligated to make out an application for it.
I would tell the school who you want to go to work for an tell the rest to pound sand!
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Post by Arcflash on Sept 5, 2003 10:25:17 GMT -5
He just told me I needed six prehires before I graduate. Then gave me a bunch of applications to fill out and mail in. It sounded kind of odd to me. What if I already had a job driving local or something? He'd still want me to apply to a bunch of OTR companies.
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Post by truckertom on Sept 5, 2003 20:09:52 GMT -5
I suppose this is a large school? Is it a "CDL mill" where they heard them in and out like cattle and everyone there has forgotten who the customer is?
I don't know......keep us posted on what else happens. Were are you at in the course?
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Post by Arcflash on Sept 6, 2003 1:03:56 GMT -5
I'm starting the course next monday so I don't really have any opinion of their teachings just yet. Their facility is nice, their instructors are experienced, and they have a lot of different late model trucks. They have three 2002 model trucks trucks; a volvo, freight liner, and a mack. They have a few cabovers too, and a lot of different trailers. I even saw a set of doubles on the range once.
It's a 6 week, 240 hour course with 10 credits. I don't know what those credits are good for but if I go to a state college after driving school I got em! hehehehe.
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Post by Scott on Sept 6, 2003 7:04:11 GMT -5
I would think that 1 pre-hire would be enough. What state is the school in? And are you state funded? By that I mean are you getting the school paid for by the state, possibly thru a CareerLink? I have taught at a school where we tried to get a student as many pre-hires as possible. Not because of any "quotas", but I wanted my students to have as many options as possible. Once a student did get a pre-hire, we didn't push for any more. And it was NEVER a requirement for graduation. It just doesn't sound right to me. Like truckertom said, keep us posted.
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Post by Arcflash on Sept 6, 2003 12:07:04 GMT -5
I would think that 1 pre-hire would be enough. What state is the school in? And are you state funded? By that I mean are you getting the school paid for by the state, possibly thru a CareerLink? School is in Pennsylvania. I did go through CareerLink too. They are very fussy about you putting out resumes and what not too, so perhaps the school is just following their que. It just seems ignorant for me to send apps to all these other companies that I don't want to work for. Then again, maybe it is a wise thing to do anyhow in case things fall through. ]
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Post by Brinybay on Mar 11, 2004 22:26:01 GMT -5
This thread is old but I just now found it. Kinda wondering what the update is? It doesn't make sense to me. If you pass all that's required, why would they w/hold your certificate or diploma what ever it is they give you? What do they care who you work for? Maybe they're just trying to jack up their placement rates? Still wouldn't make sense. I just ran into a real dumb policy with the school I am attending. I am pre-hired with SNI. That's who I went into this wanting to work for, that's who I applied to; interviewed with; fully intend to work for. End of story, we're good to go right? Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo I must have SIX pre-hires before I can graduate. So now I have to fill out five more apps, talk to five more recruiters, and go through five more interviews. What am I gonna do lie to the recruiter and say "I really want to work for you?". I don't think I can... I hate to tell them "Well I only applied cuz the school made me, derrrrr" but it's the truth.
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Post by Arcflash on Mar 12, 2004 10:30:29 GMT -5
What do they care who you work for? Maybe they're just trying to jack up their placement rates? Still wouldn't make sense. Yep, that is exactly what it is... They take a pro-active approach at keeping their placement rates high. That's why they offer lifetime placement assistance, and call you from time to time to make sure you are still working. At the time it just seemed like a pain in the butt thing to do, but now I see it as a smart business approach on their end. If they don't keep their scores up they can kiss state and federal funding goodbye, and they couldn't survive of self-pay enrollment.
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Post by Brinybay on Mar 12, 2004 13:08:10 GMT -5
Starting to make sense now. Between the time I read your post and now, I asked around and came to the same conclusion you did. So, how do you like the company you hired on with now? Yep, that is exactly what it is... They take a pro-active approach at keeping their placement rates high. That's why they offer lifetime placement assistance, and call you from time to time to make sure you are still working. At the time it just seemed like a pain in the butt thing to do, but now I see it as a smart business approach on their end. If they don't keep their scores up they can kiss state and federal funding goodbye, and they couldn't survive of self-pay enrollment.
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Post by Arcflash on Mar 12, 2004 13:57:35 GMT -5
I like it much better so far. It's not such a restrictive environment. If I am low on fuel I buy it... I don't need permission, or have to try and stretch it out to an approved fueling location. I can't even really outline all the differences in it yet. All I can say is that I am in charge, I call to find out the shipping and recieving hours and plan the load based on that. I don't have a dispatcher telling me "Have it there at 14:30 or it's a service failure".
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